Following on from the BAR COUNCIL update …revised

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(*Thank you for sending us details of another inactive HC group, detailed below*)

… we’ve noticed there are still a few inactive Hate Campaign profiles, pages and groups languishing on Facebook, in spite of being mothballed since 

  • Roxanne Summers vanished into thin air (soon after her last ‘great reveal’, which turned into another damp squit squib [link]); and
  • Heather Jones finally put a sock in it:

Save Lennox Hate Campaign Facebook profile HEATHER JONES (1)

(1) This was the busiest Jones’ profile, although it’s been dormant since July 2012, with the exception that several crass dog fighting accusations directed at Lennox’s owners were removed after that date, roughly the same time the Boycott Boycott Belfast (BBB) Facebook group deactivated, never to be seen again.

The rest of the images were also poached, including the boobs (haha), and the photo of the two huskies was nicked from JK Grooming‘s Facebook page.

We know the main users of that particular Jones‘ profile were based in Nottingham, with the only ‘likes’ being Suki Reiki (a favourite of Sarah Gunther) and – would you believe it! – Deed not Breed.

Three other Jones’ profiles still sitting on Facebook existed solely to boost numbers on other HC pages and groups:

Heather Jones Profile No. 2

Save Lennox Hate Campaign HEATHER JONES Profile with only one ‘like’ – Deed not Breed.

Heather Jones Profile No. 4

Then there’s Billie Bennet, aka Heather Jones :

Billie Bennet, another fake Facebook profile for the people behind the fake Facebook profile Heather Jones – Please try to keep up!

 And also still lounging on Facebook:

Ah, there she is again, good ‘ole Kaffy (Ella) Wardley. You can always rely on her to stick her EDL bovver boots in whenever required by whoever she’s toadying up to at the time. She’s not all bad though – Kathy (Arter) will join a lynch mob whether the target is a certain type of ‘foreigner’ or not – we’ll get to that another time.

But we digress. Coming back to these HC Facebook profiles, you have to wonder why the people behind those accounts haven’t deactivated them in order to delete all trace of their involvement.

We can only assume they’re either extremely arrogant or just plain thick, given that the associated details to create those accounts are still potentially available, and surely those same details have their uses for interested parties who read this blog?

*UPDATE* 14 November

Big thanks to one of our supporters for drawing attention to another inactive group:

Eight original members and only Billie Bennet, Ella Wardley, Corinne Day, Margaret Lord (another fake) and Ruth McKinley showing now. McKinley must have forgotten about this one.

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GUESS WHO

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We thought it might be interesting, and revealing, to have a guess the author slot on the blog.

Original, uncensored screenshots will be posted at a later date, but for now we’ve removed anything that could identify the people commenting; the only clues being in the content and style of writing.

Apart from giving us the chance to make use of unused material and screenshots buried in previous posts, it’s a very handy way of identifying individuals through their writing characteristics without a false name diverting attention away from the real identity, but we’ll also add a few screenshot comments from people who have used their own names.

Apologies if some of the screenshots seem a bit ‘random’, there’s a reason they’ve been used which will become obvious when the authors are revealed.

The comments option on this particular blog entry is temporarily disabled.

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Guess Who Pt I

1:   This person was found stalking Victoria Stilwell, DDA Watch and the Free Lennox page on Facebook :

Which FOUNDING member of The Save Lennox HATE CAMPAIGN is this

While we’re showing this, can anyone, anyone at all, please send us evidence that Lennox’s owners :  a) ‘collected money fraudulently‘;  b) ‘made accusations about dozens of people that are simply untrue‘;  and c) ‘made threats, been abusive and harassed anyone who ever asked a question‘ – [link].

It’s interesting that this person offered to provide proof of those accusations only via private message and didn’t feel able to post it in public anywhere, at any time.  Please bear that in mind when we reveal the author next week.

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2:    Someone who apparently knows everything there is to know about Deed not breed – in fact you’d swear they had a vested interest :Guess who this is with an awful lot of knowledge about Deed not Breed

The same person who wrote that also composed this:

Guess who is slagging off Victoria Stilwell, Again

It does not mean they are expert. Their evidence to the court is their opinion“!! 🙂

It doesn’t matter which one of the HC wrote this, it’s still a total contradiction of everything they’d previously agreed upon to say, but it suited this person’s vindictive agenda on that occasion to change tack (yet again). We’ll get to that another time.

For the moment, please note and keep in mind the final paragraph in that post.

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3:    We’re including this one not so much to compare styles of writing, more for the content :

Guess who is dropping Lightfoot and Page right in it

We’ll cover what’s been said here later, but for anyone who hasn’t followed the HC campaign from the beginning, basically Terry Twoons was a fake profile set-up/used-by Sandie Lightfoot, and it disappeared darn quick! As soon as Lightfoot was rumbled in fact. More on that another time.

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4:    A warning to owners of seized dogs. If you upset certain members of the HC, don’t be surprised if you find yourself on the receiving end of one of their dirty tricks campaigns :

Guess who this sewer mind is

This person, and several other HC members, certainly did try their hand at ‘reporting’ Lennox’s family to the tax and benefits offices. Didn’t do them any good of course, because there was nothing to report, therefore no outcome.

Interestingly, some members of the HC were a bit shy about using their own names to do the ‘reporting’. Now that could be because several of them are on benefits themselves (Lennox’s family was not), or it could be they risked further damage to already sullied reputations owing to their complete lack of self-control. 

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5:   One of our personal favourites :

Guess who is articulate and educated, NOT

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7:    How low can you go

Guess who stoops to the lowest possible levels

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8:    Two people commenting together, side by side on Victoria Stilwell’s page. Unusual considering  one of them claims to have had nothing to do with the Hate Campaign nor the people in it up to their necks, and therefore that person surely wouldn’t be seen dead stalking Victoria Stilwell ? 

Guess Who commenting yet again side by side

We’ve already wiped the floor with their Attorney General claims [link 1 / link 2] although to be fair it wasn’t difficult, and nobody took any notice of the HC prattling on about bomb threats and incendiary devices, because we all have Internet access and found out for ourselves what a crock that was. In fact even BCC couldn’t answer questions about their own accusations. But we’ll cover that subject in another blog entry as it’s something we haven’t touched on before. Besides, it will give us the chance to show more examples of the bile spewing forth from people who currently would prefer to be seen as innocent and squeaky clean.

9:    Before we leave Part I, here’s another snapshot of those same two people, who had nothing much to do with one another apparently, but here they’re found commenting on one of their own personal Facebook pages. What a coincidence, not :

Guess who commenting side by side once again

Guess Who Part II coming soon

Polishing off

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Our last post on this particular subject for the time being so we can concentrate on other things, unless of course they devise something else to blame us for 🙂

Just a quickie about something mentioned on Friday regarding Ted Ismay and his anti-paedophile groups. In a nutshell, Ismay made contact with a group admin and, in turn, that admin checked Ismay’s page, where he found the collection of posts mentioned in our earlier blog entry (link) and little else. In other words, there was nothing on Ismay’s page to indicate it was dedicated to anything other than the content of his warped state of mind.

Not long after that Ismay hid or removed all traces of his defamatory comments with the excuse that his kids were reading his wall. A strange thing to say considering he was the one concocting detailed sick stories which had been sitting on his page for some time, unless they’re used to seeing that tripe.

However, the admin did say that he’d passed Ismay’s details on to another group. We also understand from one of our followers that several similar groups and pages have now been contacted with a full explanation and links back to this site.

Mel Page and Ted Ismay have the morals of a gnat. As we’ve seen, they are prepared to say absolutely anything to deflect attention away from themselves, even to the point of dragging children into their spiteful games.

Their attempts at diversion reek of desperation and are so transparent it’s embarrassing, the same pattern of behaviour for all Hate Campaign members since their vendetta began.

So never mind Mel Page’s false claim of ‘guilt by association‘. With the disappearance of two major trolls, Heather Jones and Roxanne Summers, various other profiles and groups, even a child could figure out that Ismay and Page are in it up to their necks.

But, according to them, they have nothing to do with any of it; they’re entirely blameless, and yet Ms Page gives herself a get-out clause by saying she might have ‘retaliated‘.

They claim to be victims but they have fully supported and backed those involved with the HC in public from day one. That short memory lets them down every time – one minute they’re ‘guilty by association‘, then they’re ‘retaliating‘, and at other times just plain ‘innocent‘.

The fact that they have now removed comments, deactivated spare and fake profiles, wiped out Tweets and various other associations, is very revealing, but neither here nor there, since it was a waste of their time.

Time and again we’ve heard how the poor innocent things have been subjected to all kinds of uncalled-for abuse. There’s the ‘paramilitary threats‘ claim with no evidence to support it; the ‘I’ve been accused of threatening a child with violence‘, again with no evidence. Mel Page constantly refers back to vile threats and abuse, but no one has seen anything valid to support any of her claims.

And then there’s the incident where Mr Ismay allegedly took a ‘beating‘, altered and used against their targets. We know most people believe he either came off his bike or made himself unpopular with some locals and got smacked around a bit, but whatever the reason for his injuries, he and Page made sure that they ‘heavily implied’ Save Lennox supporters were responsible in some way for the alleged attack. Once again, totally untrue and with no evidence to back up their claims. Story of their life.

The ‘baseball bat threats’…

Mel page facebook starting the baseball bat ball rolling

Mel Page was the first person ever to mention ‘baseball bats and dark alleys‘ in the context of a not-so veiled threat (and there’s that mention of her ‘police friends’ yet again). When the people she named in that comment took exception and retaliated, Page swiftly changed her mind and it suddenly became ‘a wish and not a threat‘.

But putting that aside, the real thing highlighted in that screenshot is her obsession with Hate Campaign targets. She’s not observing, she’s taking part. In fact it wasn’t even ‘retaliation‘ on her part; it was a random comment she made about a subject she herself initiated. So much for ‘guilty by association‘.

As for the ‘Ann Banford‘ profile having nothing whatsoever to do with her, all we can say is, Mel Page should have quit while she had the chance on that one. It’s probably the most ridiculous claim she’s made so far.

But you have to hand it to her, she went the whole hog, insisting she knows nothing about any ‘Ann Banford‘, which is really odd, because that particular Ann Banford routinely posted on HC pages and groups targeting the exact same people Page mentions in her ‘baseball bat and alleyway‘ comment. What a coincidence.

In any case, that Ann Banford (with the same url address shown in the screenshot below) was a regular visitor to the very same HC pages Mel Page frequented all the time. It’s not as if she can validly say she hadn’t noticed Ann Banford, because there have always been just a small handful of HC members posting on those pages at any one time. Not exactly crowded or busy. Certainly not busy enough to miss someone commenting on a HC target

Ann Banford aka Mel Page aka posting a targets address

It’s plain silly to say she wasn’t posting under that profile, but apparently Page didn’t stop there. Bearing in mind Kathy Wardley’s blooper calling Larry Lawrence ‘Mel’

Mel Page aka Larry Lawrence outed by Wardley

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Larry Lawrence aka Mel Page Facebook 1

Think we can safely say that’s not Mel Gibson in disguise.

Finally, a word on our non-existent attacks on Deed not Breed. That fabrication comes from the same mould as Mel Page’s claims that her kids are being stalked, and similarly she has no evidence to support the statement that we want to destroy DnB, because there isn’t any. She knows that of course; Page also knows that she is the only person damaging DnB, aided and abetted by the articulate Ted Ismay. Some free advice for the pair of them –  time to grow up.

We’re not sure what this is…

Ted Ismay Facebook on retired MOD officer and inferences of data bases leaks

Ted Ismay is definitely saying that a retired MoD officer is being stalked, but he’s also alluding to the fact that this particular officer still has access to Police databases. What could he possibly mean by that? We do hope he’s not insinuating that retired MoD police officer would consider breaking the law?

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In response to one or two enquiries and comments on Friday’s entry, and the subject referred to, we confirm that it is genuine information in the form of a Facebook conversation carried out in public (i.e. not in a private or secret group).

Yes, it would be considered damaging to the people involved and, although we will not refer to it again unless absolutely necessary, it will be made available to authorities who wish to see it, including those investigating on behalf of Ms Page.

And that, as far as we’re concerned, is an end to the matter, for the moment at least. If Messrs Page & Ismay wish to wile away some time responding, that’s up to them; good luck with that.

Something for the weekend + Updates

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**UPDATES below**

Ted Ismay is obviously hellbent on taking that one-way trip up Shite Creek, with all the out of control rants he’s come out with lately. So before he spontaneously combusts, we thought it would be good to do some of the work for him.

In addition, Mel Page has changed her story again, and the investigation is now back on (or never went away, it’s confusing), but whatever the current explanation is, this post may help with ongoing investigations.

If you haven’t already seen the following piece of babble from Ismay, basically he’s saying you are a ‘stalker‘ if you’re not his ‘friend’ and you dare read his public Facebook page.

However, he’s taken an innocuous comment about someone else’s TWO DOGS  and turned it into the stalking of his CHILDREN to satisfy his need to spread more bile using two of his favourite words, ‘pervert’ and ‘pedo’. He missed out the ‘C’ word this time, which is surprising really because it’s one of his and Mel’s faves.

Poor, extremely dense Ted, it hasn’t occurred to him that he’s the one looking like a fixated pervert with a one-track mind…

Ted Heath(er) ISMAY Facebook on his one way trip to Shite Creek

The comments Ted Ismay removed from his page are posted verbatim below to aid various investigations, including those of Mel Page’s legal team of course, and also to ensure they crop up on the Internet.

Speaking of ‘investigations’, for someone who has been advised by her solicitor to keep it zipped, Mel Page is certainly vocal on the Hate Campaign pages (the ones she doesn’t have anything to do with), even going as far as repeating Ismay’s ‘stalking pervert’ lies. Chances are it’s just a case of The Flounders all over again, but a reckless game to play nonetheless.

Mel Page is also suffering from HC Short Memory Syndrome, though it’s no problem to help her out there:

Mel Page Facebook short memory naming PC

The first part of that screenshot shows Mel Page going through the motions for the sake of an audience (that’s us and you) on a page she has ‘nothing to do with’, Lem Thirteen. Wonder why she bothers. But presumably she’s referring to this:

Ann Banford aka Mel Page aka posting a targets address

So this is what she’s referring to, the ‘false allegation‘? Good, that’s cleared that up and it would account for her denial of wrongdoing, because in fact she used her Ann Banford account to do the deed, and not the Mel Page or Melanie Page profiles. (And it’s over to the Mel & Ted double-act to flesh that one out a bit more for their audience; will be interesting to see their version).

For two people who claim to be ‘innocent’ (at least their definition of it), they crop up in all sorts of HC places, going back several months. They’re also very defensive, to the point of raising things nobody has even mentioned. We realise it’s their attempt at deflection, but it’s a bit daft to bring up unsubstantiated claims of ‘being accused of threatening a child with a baseball bat‘, etc, and drawing attention to subjects it hadn’t occurred to us to cover. (Wait for it, they’ll mention their unproven ‘paramilitary threats’ again soon).

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Ted Ismay Facebook says:

Dennis, stop stalking my page and my children, that’s just perverted. Are you a pedo? The problem you are going to have is should my kids be contacted, messaged or even contacted by your shitty little blog then those that I do have addresses for will be paying for your mistake. And before you class that as a threat, it’s not, it’s a fucking promise and if you know as much about me as you wish to have your little gang believe then you know what I am willing and capable of doing. Its up to you old hoss, do you want to progress this into something you cannot control or stop?”

This is the profile picture of the person that is stalking myself and has now insinuated that he is stalking my kids. If you see or hear about this person the owner behind this profile is a twat. It goes by the name of dennisstephens59 and is connected with the lennox campaign, headed by craig winters and supported by Ange Manners aka Roxi Bennetti, Doreen Davies, Maria Fawcett, Carol Eden, Clare Campbell, Julie Boyland and Charlie Smith. I will post these peoples profile accounts on my page later and I will also post their profile accounts on every anti pedo wall on facebook, because in my eyes stalking kids and supporting those that stalk kids are as bad as each other

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**UPDATES**

Just a quickie before we leave the blog for the weekend.

This from Mel Page in response to our post of the day ..

Mel Page Facebook admitting her claims of kids being stalked is a cat

Thanks to Mel Page for clearing that up and confirming that no stalking of kids, as they claimed, occurred, owing to the fact that at least one of the made-up kids is a CAT (the other fake ‘kid’ is a DOG presumably).

And yes, we stand corrected again, it was Our Mistake to leave Huge Mistake’s comment out of the post. Seems Mel & Ted had one of their little double acts going on that day…

Huge Mistake aka Ted Ismay posting a targets address

Finally, we’ve had an email informing us that Mr Ismay has made a prat of himself yet again, this time by contacting at least two known (and legitimate) anti-paedophile groups regarding his sick fake stalking claims.

However, an admin on one of those groups is a follower of this blog, not good news for Ted. On Monday we’ll post what the admin has to say about Mr Ismay and his comments.

Have a good weekend.

We stand corrected…

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… because apparently Mel Page does not have a police investigation on the go (there’s a surprise):Mel page facebook has something to say to try and get herself off the hook

So, after seeking legal advice at least a month ago, Ms Page has only just been informed that her complaint is a civil matter, and it’s a no-can-do.

They didn’t tell her at the time, when she first complained and provided all her evidence, they waited until now to explain the legal processes. Why didn’t she ask her ‘Police friends‘? They could have told her the same thing ages ago. And it’s a mystery why her solicitor waited this long to explain nothing can be done. On top of that, at least part of her ‘complaint’ must have been made well over a year ago owing to her unsubstantiated claims of personal and paramilitary threats that have been floating around for months.

As for the fake ID’s, that’s rich – the next thing you know she’ll be claiming Heather Jones, a bunch of other Jones‘s, Angela Mannering, Billie Bennet, Larry Lawrence, twins Isabella & Nikola Black and even Roxanne Summers are all real !).

The only mildly savvy thing she’s done so far is use aliases, a Facebook admin and a ‘handle’ on the LLAAV website to post her bile, alongside using her own name to appear squeaky clean, which didn’t quite work out because she let herself go on more than one occasion. So much for having nothing to do with the Hate Campaign or any of its’ outlets.

Think we can safely say that Mel Page did not contact a solicitor or the police with or without ‘evidence’ for the simple reason that (as she knows very well) if something could be done about her complaints, her online activities would also be exposed, along with those of Ted Ismay. Page knows that in any police involvement regarding Internet crime, the track records of all concerned would be scrutinised.

As for the rest of that speech, it’s another crock again, familiar Hate Campaign stuff – the ‘poor me I’ve been caught out‘, ‘I’m the victim in all this now‘. They do it every time, predictable and samey. Well, Page should have thought about that before. 

But in one of her remarks above, the ‘I’m the victim‘ whinging has taken an altogether nasty turn with her accusation that ‘friends and children‘ are being targeted and stalked. Desperate and very silly. What ‘friends’ would they be we wonder, her Hate Campaign colleagues? And the ‘kids‘ someone referred to, they would be another person’s ‘dogs‘ right?

If Page insists on spreading lies accusing others of stalking and targeting her children and Ismay wants to chance his arm branding people ‘pedo’s‘ (below), they should be extremely thankful this really is currently a civil matter, otherwise they’d both be up Shite Creek with both arms tied behind their backs.

Mel Page and Ted Ismay are finally reaping the benefits of their malicious stupidity and should take their own advice;they seem to think they can say what they like…without any backlash. Not true“. As for their ‘bite’, it’s toothless.

Before we go…

Ted Heather Ismay facebook orchestrating his own demise

Ismay eventually removed that post. Maybe he realised that naming people he would like to think have a hand in this blog makes him look even more stupid than usual, or maybe it crossed his mind that taking yet another comment out of context, for his own very unhealthy reasons, was a bit too revealing.

The ‘kids’ he’s referring to are dogs, believe it or not, but Ismay thought or hoped nobody would notice. Besides, that lie came in very handy for his own sordid purposes to spread yet another sick rumour, in true HC style. (Ted has had his fair share of ‘mucky’ little conversations on Facebook in the past. Shame he has a short memory, otherwise he’d have steered well clear of accusing someone of speaking inappropriately in the same sentence as he mentions ‘kids’).

In the screenshot below Ted got cold feet and quickly changed the names of his victims to initials, but he forgot that the editing history of Facebook comments remains visible. Not the brightest bulb is he…

Ted Heath(er) Ismay Facebook correcting itself

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A word of warning from the Hate Campaign – did you know that if you read one of their public Facebook pages, but you’re not actually friends with that person and that person hasn’t given you direct permission to look at their public page, then you are officially a Stalker? But if they do the same to you, that’s perfectly okay?

Does Anyone Know…

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…what happened to the Roxanne Summers profiles? It’s a mystery.

The main profile went very quiet after posting what it claimed to be a big reveal, which turned out to be a huge mistake (link). Shortly after that, we did some revealing of our own (link).

We followed that with Connections, at which point not only did all the Roxanne Summers profiles disappear, but also Boycott Boycott Belfast and the ‘real les trollops‘ WordPress site. Zapped, overnight, literally.

On top of that, several people mentioned in ‘Connections cleaned up their Facebook pages pronto and one in particular began the process of removing or hiding comments, Tweets and associations (too late, sorry Ms Page). Now why would anyone do that if they had nothing to hide?

Was it all because of our recent posts? The Bar Council’s response to several complaints about Summers might have had something to do with it as well and, as we understand Mel Page’s solicitor is reading this blog in order to gather evidence (as are the Police according to her), we thought it would be helpful to show this:

Bar Council Northern Ireland Letter response re Roxanne Summers Facebook

The attached letter from Kathy Smyth stated:

05 March 2013

Dear

Re: Professional Conduct Committee – Your Complaint Against A Member of the Bar of Northern Ireland

I have been asked to write to you on behalf of the Professional conduct committee regarding your recent complaint.

Enquiries have been made on behalf of the Committee and it has been confirmed that there is no Counsel at the Bar of Northern Ireland by the name of Roxanne Summers.

It does appear however that a person using that name on Facebook has represented that he or she is a barrister.

Two possibilities arise, namely;

1. The person operating under the name Roxanne Summers is not in fact a barrister and the representation is false, or

2. The person is a member of the bar but is not using their real name.

The Committee is making further enquiries to establish whether it is possible to confirm which of these possibilities is correct.

In the meantime, the committee would welcome any further information, which might assist in establishing whether the person in question is in fact a member of the Northern Ireland Bar.

The committee is due to meet again on 12th March and you shall be notified of any further developments.

Yours faithfully


Kathy Smyth
Secretary
Professional Conduct Committee

Needless to say we can post no further comments from the Bar Council at this time, but obviously that will be forthcoming when Ms Page’s legal team have completed their investigation, which hopefully will be soon.

After all, if they’re all as innocent and blameless of the deeds highlighted in this blog as they claim to be, doesn’t it make sense to punish us with legal action? If they’re truly guiltless it won’t cost them a penny, and our identities can be revealed. So what could possibly be stopping them?

We await to hear from them. Meanwhile, we’ll leave you with this thought. Why did the Roxanne Summers profiles, an HC Facebook page and a website disappear overnight, and why did various people clean up their Facebook pages and Tweets immediately after we posted the February entries mentioned above? Another mystery!

Expert Witness – another HC target

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You know a vendetta has hit rock-bottom when the people behind it resort to an attempt at discrediting the reputation of someone like Sarah Fisher, and the Hate Campaign did just that (link). Had David Ryan not said something the HC could extract to give their spite a little lift, he would have received the same treatment (*below).

Sarah Fisher’s reputation as a renowned animal behaviourist of long-standing could not be disputed by the HC, so the malignant excuse-for-a-human behind the Roxanne Summers profile set about fabricating a story, claiming to have personally acquired this ‘scoop’. Once again the rest of the HC lapped it up, because, as far as they’re concerned, anything Summers and Jones spewed was Gospel, whether it was suspect or not (admittedly, the ‘or not‘ is pushing the boundaries just a bit).

That particular ‘scoop’ entailed Summers apparently privy to the workings of Belfast City Council. Despite her report being a big fat lie, it’s interesting that whatever the real (and still active) identity of the sleazeball behind ‘Summers’, the other hate campaigners either believed or knew the BCC connection existed. Since we all know that ‘Summers’ was not a barrister, what role can we assume that person played in BCC then? Probably not a lavatory attendant.

One thing’s for sure, we can whittle down possible suspects by dismissing the likes of Day, Gathercole, Vermin, Jules, Enselmann, yada, yada, who are merely the flotsam picked up along the way, each one with about as much clout, influence and nous of a gnat.

(From the evidence so far, it’s highly unlikely a single one of them is capable of coming up with anything that remotely smacks of an intelligent fabrication, their only use in the HC being to back-up, bolster, fawn and share.)

Sarah Fisher was probably unaware of that particular piece of vindictive gossip at the time, and she’s unlikely to have responded anyway. However, she had previously been compelled to issue a statement for other reasons (below and link), which is most likely why the HC tried to discredit her with one of their usual potboilers.

Right from the start of the Save Lennox campaign, it was evident the people behind the HC were quite prepared, in their efforts to degrade his owners, to damage any chances of Lennox being released, that’s common knowledge now, the evidence is everywhere. So all the crap about Lennox’s welfare being paramount to them is a crock.

To illustrate that point, as we all know, one of their efforts to discredit Lennox backfired spectacularly when a small extract of David Ryan’s recorded assessment was leaked in an attempt at demonstrating Lennox’s so-called ‘aggression’. The only purpose that extract served was to highlight how very comfortable and relaxed dog warden Sandie Lightfoot was in the company of Lennox, and, in turn, his own good manners and sweet nature.

The extract also elicited another response, and details of Mr Ryan’s full assessment were revealed, disclosing methods used by him to taunt and goad Lennox into a negative reaction, which actually showed Lennox to be a well behaved dog.

*(As they just love to quote the court documents, this is taken from David Ryan’s statement regarding part of his assessment where he more or less pinned Lennox to a wall, giving the dog no place to go : “..’in one movement he lunged towards me, growled, barked and snapped’. Fortunately the dog did not bite Mr (Ryan) although he acknowledged that it could have done so if it had wanted to.” – link). That was the only ‘aggressive’ reaction from Lennox recorded in the whole of Mr Ryan’s assessment, which we understand lasted for an hour, more or less.

(That extract direct from David Ryan’s report states: “… in one movement he lunged towards me, growled, barked and snapped. He did not make.contact with me and returned to sit with Ms Lightfoot. As he did so, I again offered him cheese, which he took immediately in a relaxed manner…”)

It was after that particular HC home goal that the vendetta stepped up, becoming more malicious and inventive, getting to the point where a vindictive idea that came right off the top of their boneheads was quoted as fact.

  • Consider who, right from the beginning, was affronted by Lennox’s owners and their refusal to back down and allow Lennox to be destroyed without a fight. Who decided Lennox’s owners had absolutely no right to challenge an unjust system and stand up against the arrogance of certain people within that system? And who stood to lose credibility or, come to that, was refused an offer of involvement?
  • Who had reason, motive and the ability to leak documents and video extracts and pass off images of another dog, claiming to show Lennox in good health during his incarceration (link)? Who is closely associated with someone who could have done all those things?
  • When the lies, innuendo and gossip didn’t take hold and were dismissed or ignored by all but a handful of people, who became so desperate for attention they risked fabricating evidence, assuming fake profiles would prevent them from being discovered? (e.g. link)

That vendetta commenced almost immediately after Lennox was seized, making it perfectly obvious that the reasons for the hate campaign were very personal indeed and had nothing whatsoever to do with Lennox, but everything to do with revenge and resentment.

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Statement of Sarah Fisher made on 11 October 2011:

»» ” It has been brought to my attention that a small clip of my assessment of Lennox has been put on the Internet.  This clip has been taken completely out of context and whilst I have remained relatively quiet on this case since I spoke in court, I feel that I am now forced to make a statement to clarify what actually happened during the time I was with Lennox.

Wrongly or rightly many documents and details about this case have been passed onto different parties. I do not feel it is appropriate for me at this moment to discuss in detail everything that has been said to me, nor to put forward my own ideas regarding all the statements made, as everyone is entitled to their own opinion and beliefs.  What I am qualified to do however is to discuss behaviour. My assessments, statements and videos of those assessments have been accepted in other court cases at Magistrates, County and Crown Courts here in the UK, so the field of assessment in cases such as this is not unknown to me.

I do not care if I am to be criticized by members of the public or even other professional bodies as I have a wealth of experience handling and working with many breeds of dogs, large and small, and I also work with horses with behavioural issues, so I do not need to defend the claims that I have little or no experience of working with powerful animals such as Pit Bull Types. I would however like to clarify that a Pit Bull Type is often a mix of dogs.  Nothing extraordinary happens to the psyche of a dog when it conforms to certain measurements.

I do care however that Lennox is being portrayed in a poor light through this video clip as my experience of handling Lennox was thoroughly enjoyable and I now feel the need to explain in greater detail the truth, as I see it, about my assessment.  I know that Victoria Stilwell has been, what I would consider to be, a sane voice amidst the madness that surrounds this case, and she has seen full video footage of the assessments carried out by myself and David Ryan, plus other documentation.

When the door to the van was first opened Lennox barked.  He barked at me three times when I approached.  As I said in my report this is not uncommon behaviour in any dog that is in a confined situation in a crate, kennel or in a car.  He was also shaking like a leaf but this does not come over in the video that my assistant took of this assessment.  He was clearly frightened as he could not have known what was going to happen to him and again this is not an uncommon behaviour in the dogs that come to me for help. No one has ever disputed that Lennox can be anxious around some strangers but I believe the key word some has sadly been overlooked.

I asked for someone that Lennox knew to take him out of the crate to keep his stress levels low. Entry and exit points can be a source of conflict for any dog. I was told I had to handle Lennox on my own for the entire assessment and that he had bitten the last person that came to see him (see below).  This is the clip that has been released.  Had I had any concerns for my safety or those around me given that I was to be fully and wholly responsible for a dog that I do not know and that I had been told has bitten, I would not have continued with the assessment if I believed that dog to be a danger either to myself or those who were standing in the car park. Lennox gave me a lot of information about his temperament whilst in the crate.

In court however, and therefore under oath, Ms Lightfoot, the Dog Warden stated that in fact Lennox had not bitten anyone so I have to assume on the evidence placed before the court that the statement made to me at the start of my assessment was untrue.  Given the publicity surrounding this case I am also confident that had Lennox actually bitten anyone whilst in the care of his family, as has been suggested, someone would have come forward by now.

I spent approx fifteen minutes with Lennox prior to being taken from the crate, working with a clicker and some treats to see if, even in the environment that was causing him some anxiety, he could still learn and take direction from a stranger. He could. His eyes were soft and he was friendly. At this point I would also like to clarify the meaning of the word friendly.  It does not mean confident.  Was Lennox anxious? Yes.  Hostile?  No.

I believe that Lennox would have been totally at ease had I indeed taken him out myself but I also believe I have a duty of care to reduce stress where possible when handling any animal in a situation that is causing them distress.  No doubt this statement will also be taken out of context by those who wish to discredit me and to discredit my belief that Lennox is not a danger to the public based on my experience with him, and also based on the video assessment carried out by David Ryan, which I have also seen.

I use food in an assessment to monitor the dogs stress levels and emotions at all times. It is not a bribe. A habitually aggressive dog will generally seek out conflict in my experience but even these dogs can often be rehabilitated. No amount of food can disguise this behaviour and giving food to a dog with aggression issues can be extremely dangerous. The dog may be lured to a person by the promise of food but once it has taken the food it may panic as the offering of the food has now brought that dog into close proximity with the threat i.e. a stranger. I have worked with dogs with aggression issues and whilst some may well take the food, the person delivering the food may not be able to move once the food has gone as the movement of the person, even the smallest movement of their arm, may trigger the dog to lunge and bite.

I would not hand feed a dog that I deem to be aggressive. The delivery of the treat must come from the person that the dog knows and trusts – not the stranger. The dog can learn to approach a threat and then turn back to the person that the dog trusts for the reward if the approach to the person is appropriate.  I use food throughout an assessment to monitor what is happening with the dog on an emotional and physical level not to make him my best friend.

Lennox was so gentle with the taking of the food both in the crate and also later in the car park.  He was also appropriate in his behaviour with the games we played. He was also gentle when he jumped up at me to see if he was allowed the food that I was withholding in my hand. When he realised it wasn’t forthcoming he politely backed off. This would suggest to me that he has been around a family. Not chained up in a yard as has also been claimed by people who do not know the family or the dog.

Lennox showed excellent impulse control at all times and at no point did he grab me or my own clothing, which many dogs do when getting excited by a game.  I have worked with some truly challenging dogs and some will become increasingly aroused by lead ragging or games with toys and start seriously mouthing or biting the handlers arms or clothing. This can quickly flip over to more overt aggression and these dogs can be dangerous particularly if they are being handled by just one person.  It is imperative that dogs with this behaviour are taught a more appropriate way of interacting with people and responding to the leash and also greater self control. There are many ways to help dogs that have been encouraged, through mishandling and misunderstanding, to behave in such a manner.  Kicking and beating them is certainly not the answer.

Lennox does rag on the lead but it is very self controlled. He did not exhibit any of the behaviours that I have mentioned above. Regardless of what some uneducated people may wish to think, it is possible to glean a lot of information about a dog through games and food as many behaviour counsellors and trainers will confirm.

I wrote a fifteen page report on my experience with Lennox and my thoughts about the David Ryan assessment. In this report I state that I have concerns about the appearance of Lennox’s neck. In the video I explain this too.  His ears are unlevel and there was a change in the lay of his coat over the Atlas in line with the nuchal ligament that is present between T1 and C2 vertebrae.  Coat changes often occur in dogs, cats and horses that have suffered injury or those that are unwell. I have studied this over seventeen years of handling many animals. In all cases where I referred an animal back to a vet, whether it was in the care of a shelter, owned by my private clients or students that I teach changes to the soft tissue or skeleton were noted on further detailed investigation.  When I see this around the neck in a dog I know that it is likely to give the dog cause for concern when someone unknown to that dog attempts to handle the collar or put on or take off a lead.  Coat changes may well be present where deep bruising has also occurred. Pain and pain memory is a key factor in many behavioural problems.

Lennox was quite rightly put on Amitriptyline. I do not believe that the Council have failed in their duty to care for Lennox when it comes to the stress that he has been under and I understand that this drug is used to treat anxiety and depression.  It was with interest, though, that I discovered that this drug is also used to treat chronic pain in dogs. Again this was mentioned in my written report.  This may explain in part why my experience with Lennox seems to fly in the face of other evidence presented before the courts. He was not on Amitriptyline when he was assessed by David Ryan.

I would absolutely move on to touch an animal all over its body in any assessment that I do.  I may or may not choose to muzzle a dog that is unknown to me to do this if I have concerns about the body language that I have seen prior to this part of my assessment.  I elected not to stroke Lennox all over because of my concerns about his neck, the newly forming scabs that were present on his flanks and the blood that was present around the nail beds around his right hind foot. This decision was made based on the physical evidence before me not because I felt I would be in danger.  I talked about this in court which was open to the public and at the end of my assessment which is also on film I explained this to a representative from the BCC Dog Warden team and asked if there was anything else that she would like me to do with Lennox.  She said no.

I cannot comment on what happened when Lennox was seized or measured by Peter Tallack because I wasn’t there. I can explain behaviour though and any frightened animal can be intimidating. I have recently been in Romania working with traumatised horses and two stallions had not been mucked out for months as the staff (men) were too scared to go in with them. They called them ‘pitbulls’ such is the misguided impression of this type of dog.  Hay had been simply thrown over the stable doors and their water buckets were hanging crushed against the stable wall.  I went in with them, not because I have any desire to be a hero, but because I can read an animal well and within minutes they were quiet, standing at the end of their stables albeit it pressed up against the walls. I was calm with them and we took out all the filthy bedding and fetched new water buckets for them too. They didn’t attack anyone. They were simply terrified and they were not provoked. I spent time with one of them on my own, hand feeding him and was finally able to touch his face.

This process probably took less than half an hour. I was totally absorbed in what I was doing and when I turned to walk out I realised that one of the Romanian men had been watching me. He raised his eyebrows, gave me the thumbs up and walked away. Other people could then go in with this magnificent horse too and hand feed him the fresh sweet grass that we had picked from the surrounding fields so it isn’t simply that I am quiet in my handling of animals nor possess some extraordinary skill that can make even the most savage lion behave like a lamb when in my company.

I can perhaps, help an animal that is struggling, gain trust in human beings as many people can.  I can perhaps work with a difficult animal and make it look as though that animal is calm but all the time I am reading that animal. Every second of the way. I am looking at the eyes if it is safe to do so, I am watching the respiration, I am studying the movement, the set of the ears and the tail and so on and my opinions about an animal are based on many years of working in this way.  One case that will always stand out in my mind was a large member of the Bull Breed family.  I believe she was two years old.  I won’t go into the details here but I will say that when I worked with her she appeared to be very good to the member of kennel staff that was watching.  At the end of my assessment the member of staff asked me what I thought.  I sadly had to say that I thought the dog should be put to sleep. The member of staff was horrified and I remember her saying ‘but she’s been so good with you’.  But I had noticed some worrying signs.  The shelter ignored my advice and rehomed the dog who savaged the new owner so badly the owner ended up in the ICU. Of course the dog was immediately destroyed.

I knew what I was walking into when I agreed to go and assess Lennox for the family.  To have to defend Lennox outside of the court has, however, come as a surprise.  I have made this statement to shed a little more light on what is a distressing case for all those involved,  knowing full well that I will no doubt be subject to further scrutiny and criticism. So be it. I am not afraid. If nothing else this case has highlighted some important issues about the fears and prejudice concerning dogs, their breed types and their behaviour. Certainly it highlights the sad truth as Xenephon said so wisely in 400 BC, ‘Where knowledge ends, violence begins’.” ««

Tied up in Notts

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Heather Jones Facebook posting from Nottingham. Now who else lives in a place like that?

Questions from TED ISMAY

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Hello Ted, your completely unaltered comments are activated now. What, surprised?

Anyone who hasn’t commented on the blog before has to be approved, that’s to stop the odd airhead from Lem Thirteen or The Lav posting inane and childish remarks when we’re not around, as they’ve tried in the past.

We’ve also screenshot your comments so they can be covered better here, and you’ll find them below, although we’ve blanked out your IP address.

Looking at the overall questions, in a nutshell, the short answer to the whole lot is ‘You reap what you sow‘ Ted.

Comment 1
As we said right at the start, the purpose of this blog is to draw attention to things that have been said and done by members of the Hate CampaignWe’re aware you don’t like the term ‘Hate Campaign’, but it’s a step up from ‘Syco’, so not too bad in the circumstances and, in any case, it happens to be true.

We’ve also maintained right from the start that we control the topics and do not answer questions unless we feel the need, that’s our prerogative, and we have never pretended otherwise. As you’ve been reading the blog regularly in one guise or another, you should know that.

Also from the off we explained that we were not directly involved with (what you all like to call) the ‘core’ of the Save Lennox campaign. Obviously over the last few months we’ve become acquainted with many of them, in fact we wouldn’t have access to most of the evidence without them. That doesn’t mean we run a message service, so if you want to draw attention to any one of them directly, we suggest you do what comes naturally – use your own page, Deed not breed or The Lav, since they seem to be the only outlets you have left.

As far as pillow cases go, white or otherwise, nope, we don’t wear them.

The ‘abusive’ remark is subjective. You’ve all been exposed and caught red-handed, so from your point of view it’s a completely natural and expected reaction to make your accusers out to be the villains of the piece. It’s what happens when bullies and liars are confronted.

Comment 2
It’s pretty much the same as above in that you’re accusing your own personal hate targets of now being the bullies and abusers, and all because you’ve been outed. You’re backed into a corner so it’s fight or flight – a bit of both so far.

The KKK analogy is utterly ridiculous; they’re an organisation based on shocking and disgusting principles and your preferance for mentioning them every chance you get just makes it appear as if you share the same values. If you do share those values then fair enough, but at least spit it out and make yourself clear.

And ditto Comment 1 regards us blogging anonymously. You have a choice; read our blog, don’t read our blog. The time will come when (according to her) Mel Page’s solicitor and local police will have done their job and all will be revealed, including HC’s antics and hidden profiles. Until that day we can all carry on the way we are – the HC with more fakes than a mannequin factory, and us with our little blog.

In the meantime, clearing out comments on The Lav, deleting Tweets, closing down Facebook profiles and unpublishing pages, none of that will do an ounce of good any more.

Comment 3
Your wires are a bit crossed regards proof; take another look and read what we actually have said, and then take on board our ‘prerogative’ comments above. Oh and Ted, it’s best to keep in mind that we don’t care what you think.

The reason ‘why?’ is an easy one, we’ve answered that many times before and, if we ever doubted ourselves for a second, all we’d have to do is pop over to a Lem page (currently Lem Thirteen) or The Lav, or go through our cache of screenshots, to confirm what everyone except you and that very small band of malicious people can see a mile off.

As for insisting both you and Mel Page are innocents in all this and were never involved, that’s a joke. It’s completely false and you know it (link). Your constant need to explain yourself and comment on Lem Thirteen to rally the dwindling troops makes it very obvious that you’re really wondering what kind of proof we have and when we’re going to use it.

You should have thought about that long before creating fake profiles to pursue a hate campaign, under the delusion that you’d get away with it indefinitely.

What you both should have done was – well, not done it in the first place;simple as that. You should have thought about the repercussions. You can’t blame anyone else but yourselves; nobody ‘made’ you do anything.

Ted Ismay Facebook wants to know what we actually know about him b

Teddy Bear Strikes Again!

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This particular Teddy has an obsession with introducing the term ‘KKK’ (Ku Klux Klan) into pretty much every comment. Charming.

And, as mentioned previously (link), he either has an extremely short memory or doesn’t involve himself in the logistics of Deed not Breed because Ted Ismay states: ” ….DnB has saved the lives of hundreds of dogs over the past seven years or so and are still doing it, daily…”

All that saving must have occurred prior to 2012 then, because according to this comment posted on DnB’s Facebook page on Monday of this week (18 March):

Sarah Gunther confirming 7 dogs saved in last 12 months, not the hundreds Ted Ismay claims

So between the three of them (Deed not Breed / Bull Breed Advisory Service and EGAR) they’ve saved seven dogs in the last year. You’d be hard-pushed to add enough digits to that figure to turn it into ‘hundreds’, but no doubt they’ll find a way.

Ted also says ”  DnB ask for no money, they pay for the full running costs out of their own pockets, they fund it themselves “, which is odd because Mel Page said something completely different fairly recently didn’t she?

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Anyway, enough about Ted, although there isn’t much more we need to blog today, they’re doing all the hard work for us, and a fantastic job it is too. If ever we wanted to illustrate to our followers the infantile mentality of the Hate Campaign and, more importantly, the stark difference between them and other organisations and support groups, we could not, on any given day, have found a better example.

Before we go, just to remind everyone that, if you do look in on The Lav or Lem Thirteen, keep in mind they are all still there, regardless of the excuses that they cannot post for one reason or another. In fact they have so many fake profiles and aliases they’re running out of ideas. The latest one is Sherlock Homes, newly hatched, and the only reason they chose that name is they couldn’t spell Moriarty (can’t spell Holmes either). Okay, fair enough, that’s just nitpicking, and so is this:

Debbie Gathercole Facebook version of a fully grown adult

We’ll go over the rest another time, but to leave you with an illustration of Debbie Gathercole’s version of ‘an adult’ and her alleged ‘disapproval’ of some disgusting things that occurred on their side of the fence:

Debbie Gathercole Facebook disturbed